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| Toad in dog Heaven. An "old" pic, as Bella (white) is now bigger than Harry (brown) |
People must be wondering why Toad, (me) on
CP&S, (Catholicism, Pure & Simple - it's neither, of course) keeps harping on about Eternal Damnation.
But maybe not – it's a concept of
some significance if it happens to be true, and a shockingly
revolting one if it isn't.
In fact, it's a shockingly revolting
concept either way, when you think about it. Enough to give any child the heebie-jeebies! Did the Toadpole, at least!
Lewis Carroll, a great genius and saintly man, whom Toad hugely
admires, and who was an Anglican minister of sorts, said he could
accept the whole of Christianity, apart from that one hideous aspect.
He probably had a few reservations
about wicked old popes as well, but that's another topic altogether.
One of the CP&S team says that very
likely only people who
“Hate God” go to Hell.
Toad has great difficulty in
understanding how anyone
could hate God, but let's put that on
one side, for now.
(Except what they might be hating is
the
idea of God. Which is clearly not the same thing. And
anyway, their idea of God might be wrong. Probably is. What then?)
The real point of this laborious rumination,
however, is that apparently attitudes are now considerably,
relatively,
different in the Catholic Church then they were some 55 years ago -
when Toad was still in his teens.
Back then it wasn't necessary to
“hate”
God in order to be eternally damned – all that was required was to be in a state of mortal sin.
Which could be achieved, briskly and
easily, by playing truant from Mass on Sundays, for no “good” reason.
How masturbation, and looking at a bikini-clad Brigitte Bardot in "Tit Bits Magazine," rated on the Mortal sin-scale
chart is now vague to Toad.
It would be nice to be told if the
Mass-missing bit is still relevant.
Oh, and this nightmarish scenario of devils endlessly poking you with toasting forks in an inferno could happen to anyone
over seven, "The age of reason," an age, it would seem, that's still beyond Toad. To fill a small child's head with such pernicious nonsense , as the good nuns did to little Toadito was, in retrospect, a sin.
But it would be erroneous to imagine they saw it that way..
In Toad's youth, practically everything
interesting was a sin.
Girls (in his case, not boys) were paramount. Just sexually lucky, apparently. As was dancing too close to girls. As was reading "The Three Musketeers," both activities which nowadays Toad does not have the slightest inclination to do.
Tempi cambi.
More importantly, he was taught as a
matter of absolute fact – not whimsical speculation – that no
Non-Catholics were going to Heaven, and very likely not a great many
Catholics either, particularly if they persisted in doing paper
rounds on Sunday mornings.
Damned by association with the Press
way back then!
Irony and prophecy seamlessly combined!
Someone else on CP&S suggested the
idea of going to Hell for all eternity was “scary.”
Yes, the
idea certainly is. The reality, if such it is is somewhat beyond scary. Way beyond.
Insane, I think.
And the idea that a being of total
goodness and all perfections could even consider not stopping someone, anyone,
of manifestly inferior moral material to themselves, being sent there - is even scarier.
Because, if the sinner involved insists on going there - then he, or she, simply don't know what's good for them.
And should be pitied. And quickly put straight. Not infinitely casigated.
If my dogs insist on trying to run into the traffic, I prevent them. I want them to enjoythemselves and not feel constrained by the leads, but Free Will can go too far for their own good. And the idea that I treat them better than God treats humans is inescapable.
For what would God have to gain (or lose) from damning people?
Nothing. He does it for nothing, then?
So the hell with Hell.
But we shall see. Maybe. Quite soon. Possibly.
“He (God) destined all material creatures for the good of the human race. “… says the Catechism.
As you know Kathleen, I’m normally and aimiably tolerant of the vagaries of religious thinking (What! You cry!!!) but in this case, after more reflection, I must hark back to your comment where you said:
“I must say that, believe it or not, every living creature has its place in nature, even mosquitoes! And certainly tigers do; grazing animals would increase too much and end up starving to death if there were no natural predators to keep their numbers down and eliminate the weak and sickly ones.
According to the Bible this beautiful and magnificent world was created by God and given into man’s hands to look after and care for.”
The Catechism quote above says nothing about man’s place in nature, as yours rightly and properly does.
The Catechism says “nature,” if you like, is there solely for our “good,” for our benefit.
That strikes me as disgusting and absurd, but we will let that go.
(I still can’t see what “good” dinosaurs ever did for the human race. Can we even assert that without dinosaurs there would have been no humans?
Not with any confidence, I suggest – but we will let that go, as well.)
The real question here is how, given that life has teemed on this planet for around two billion years, and human life as we know it for maybe 150,000 years – a minute scintilla of the timescale – how can anyone seriously assert that man’s function is, “…to look after and care for,” the other living creatures?
Living creatures were doing perfectly well before man finally got here.
On a time scale It’s like saying God put man in charge of the pet shop, which had been open since 9 am, one and a half seconds before the doors shut at 7 pm.
(How would you “look after” a cockroach, anyway? We’ll let that go, too.)
It’s also worth considering that tigers would go on happily culling grazing species regardless of whether man existed or not, as they did for countless aeons before “Homo Sapiens,” who is, we are told, “made in God’s image” evolved sufficiently to start polluting and fouling up the place.
It’s fair to say that without mankind, life on Earth would have been a whole lot less unpleasant.
In short, humanity has been a total disaster for this planet in many ways.
...Christ and St. Francis of Assisi and Rin Tin Tin (that's him) notwithstanding.